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>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE AT DONNYBROOK, THE FIRST SINCE TUESDAY'S ELECTION SO WE HAVE LOTS TO ANALYZE.

LET'S MEET THE ANALYSTS, STARTING WITH THE MEDIA VETERAN HERSELF, WENDY WIESE, WHO WILL BE INDUCTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME ON THE 23RD.

YOU CAN GET THOSE TICKETS AT MEDIAHISTORY.ORG.

BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH PATCH.

FROM THE 314 PODCAST AND ST. LOUIS PLAYING, SARAH FENSKE.

AND WE WELCOME FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, ALVIN REID.

SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO ACCOMPLISHED ARTIST AND LANGUAGISH INSTRUCTOR, STEPHANIE NOREY, WHO IS PROVIDING THE ARTWORK ON OUR SET.

SHE TEACHES ITALIAN AND FRENCH AND SPANISH AND YOU CAN SEE MORE OF HER ART PORK AT SNORLEYACRYLIC 222, THAT'S HER INSTAGRAM.

WENDY, WE WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THINGS IN ST. LOUIS WHERE THE MAYOR GOT 36% OF THE VOTE.

IT WAS NOT WHAT SHE WAS LOOKING FOR.

MAYOR TISHAURA JONES LOST TO CARA SPENCER 64 TO 36%.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE AND ARE THERE LESSONS FOR THE NEXT MAYOR?

>> I THINK IF YOU LISTEN TO MOST PEOPLE AND THE FOLKS ON IF YOU PAY ATTENTION TO SOCIAL MEDIA, AND FRANKLY I THINK WE ALL DO THESE DAYS, MAYOR JONES JUST DID NOT HAVE -- SHE CAME IN TO OFFICE, I BELIEVE, WITH SUCH INCREDIBLE PROMISE.

I THINK OVER TIME SHE -- I'VE BEEN GIVEN THIS A LOT OF THOUGHT.

SHE REPRESENTS SORT OF SHE BRIDGES TWO DIFFERENT ERAS.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE TODAY IN 2025 MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT SHE'S NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN BEING.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET INTO THE WEEDS WITH THAT, BUT SHE WANTS TO GOVERN ONE WAY AND THE CITIZENRY WANT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF GOVERNMENT.

I THINK CARA SPENCER, HER ENERGY LEVEL, THE ENERGY AROUND HER WITH BLACK VOTERS AND WHITE VOTERS WAS PALPABLE.

I THINK THAT SHE WILL LEARN A LOT ON THE JOB OBVIOUSLY.

I THINK SHE'S LEARNED FROM WATCHING MAYOR JONES.

BUT DARLENE GREEN, IN TERMS OF THAT DEFEAT -- >> WE WILL GET TO THAT ONE.

LET'S STICK WITH THE MAYOR FIRST.

>> I THOUGHT THAT TISHAURA JONES WAS DONE IN BY THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE HER IN.

LIKE THE JAIL WAS A BIG ISSUE FOR TISHAURA JONES.

SHE HAD THAT JAIL COMMISSIONER WHO WOULDN'T ALLOW THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHO ALSO TISHAURA JONES HAD COME UP WITH THE IDEA AND NAMED.

SO WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

AND GIVING AWAY MONEY.

THAT'S USUALLY A GREAT THING FOR A POLITICIAN, BUT SLDC, GIVING MONEY -- YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL CARVING OUT SOMETHING FOR THE HUBBARDS AND THEN GIVING SMALLER GRANTS TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE EASILY SHOWN TO NOT BE LEGITIMATE.

WHEN NEWSPAPER REPORTERS CAN DRIVE AROUND AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S NOTHING AT THIS BUILDING OR THIS IS A PRIVATE HOUSE.

AND THEY ARE GETTING MONEY FOR THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER MUSEUM SORT OF THING?

GIVING AWAY MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EASY THING.

THE FINAL THING WAS THE PROBLEM WITH THE PERSONNEL DIRECTOR, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL IN THE CITY BUT SORT OF AN UNKNOWN OFFICE.

AND MAYOR JONES WAS ABLE TO PUT HER OWN PERSON IN THERE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE'S FIGHTING WITH HER AND MS. GRAY LOOKS LIKE SORT OF A CLOWN.

AND YOU THINK, YEAH, BUT THE MAYOR PUT HER IN THERE.

SO THINGS THAT WERE JUST SURPRISING TO BE AGAINST THE MAYOR.

I DIDN'T BLAME THE SNOW FOR HER.

>> NO, IT WASN'T THE SNOW.

>> I THINK WHY THE SNOW WAS SO DAMAGING TO HER IS THERE WAS AN INCREASING GROWING SENSE AMONG SOME CITY RESIDENTS THAT SHE WASN'T BRINGING ENOUGH URGENCY TO SOLVING THE DAY-TO-DAY LIVING PROBLEMS.

AND THERE WAS A SENSE SHE'S KIND OF FOCUSED ON PIE IN THE SKY PROGRESSIVE IDEAS LIKE LET'S DO A PILOT PROJECT ON THIS AND THAT INSTEAD OF PAYING ATTENTION TO THE NITTY-GRITTY AND THAT'S WHY I THINK PEOPLE WOULD GET SO UPSET WHEN SHE WOULD HAVE THE SPATS LIKE SHE WOULD ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

WHERE IS YOUR FIRE WITH TRYING TO SORT OUT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITHIN YOUR ADMINISTRATION?

AND MAYBE BEHIND THE SCENES SHE WAS, BUT IT DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE THAT FEELING AND I THINK THAT REALLY TURNED OFF A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING AROUND THAT TOWER GROVE PARK AREA.

THERE WERE A LOT OF WHITE PROGRESSIVES THAT CAME ON BOARD FOR HER CAMPAIGN AND ENDED UP GOING IN BIG NUMBERS FOR SPENCER.

>> FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T DO SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

THAT'S TRUE.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING NOR KIND OF REALLY DO I CARE.

YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF I WISH TISHAURA WOULD HAVE WON BUT I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING BEING SAID ABOUT BEING GRACIOUS IN DEFEAT.

AND I HOPE PEOPLE DON'T.

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

ONCE AGAIN I THINK WE ARE MORE ENTRENCHED NORTH AND SOUTH AS WE WERE 48 HOURS AGO.

THAT'S A BAD THING.

>> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?

AS THE EDITOR AND COLUMNIST WITH ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, I THINK MS. ANDERSON OF ST. LOUIS PUBLIC RADIO HAS DOCUMENTED THE LAST COUPLE YEARS OF THE LOSS OF AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THE CITY.

IN THE DECADE THAT LED UP TO 2020, 20,000 MOVED OUT.

THAT WAS FAR BEYOND THE NUMBER OF WHITES THAT MOVED OUT.

IN THE PAST TWO YEARS ANOTHER 7,000 AFRICAN AMERICANS MOVED OUT.

RIGHT NOW AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE ONLY 113,000 RESIDENTS IN A CITY OF 279,000 AND THIS MAYOR'S POLICIES WERE DIRECTED TOWARDS, IN LARGE PART, NORTH ST. LOUIS AND THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHICH SHE FELT HAD BEEN OVERLOOKED.

I THINK IT'S A NUMBERS GAME AND FOR AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN POLITICIAN IN ST. LOUIS, IT WILL BE A LOT MORE DIFFICULT TO RUN CITY-WIDE.

>> YOU HAVE TO RUN CITY-WIDE, WHICH THE MAYOR DID.

BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, TECHNICALLY, WHAT WAS IT, 50,000, 52,000 PEOPLE VOTED, YEAH, 2700 VOTES, 3,000 VOTES MEAN A LOT.

THE PEOPLE THAT PROBABLY MOVED OUT WERE PEOPLE WHO VOTED.

>> 26% TURNOUT, RIGHT?

THAT WAS KIND OF WOEFUL.

>> AND THE TURNOUT WAS EVEN WORSE IN NORTH CITY.

>> THERE ARE FEWER PEOPLE.

>> FEWER PEOPLE.

>> FEWER PEOPLE VOTED IN THIS ELECTION THAN FOUR YEARS AGO.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

>> THEY DIDN'T TURN OUT.

ARE THE RESIDENTS KIND OF ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL?

IS THERE A LEGITIMATEGY?

MAYBE IN THE JUST ST. LOUIS, MAYBE AROUND THE COUNTRY, I DON'T KNOW.

>> I THINK PEOPLE WERE FRUSTRATED IN THE NORTH PART OF THE CITY AND THERE WERE ANNOUNCEMENTS THERE WILL BE BIG INVESTMENTS AND WHEN PEOPLE SAW THAT IT DIDN'T DIRECTLY HELP THEM, THERE WAS ANGER OUT OF THAT AND THEY CHOSE TO STAY HOME.

>> SHE WASN'T ABLE TO SPEND A PENNY OF THE RAM SETTLEMENT, AND SHE HAD THREE YEARS TO DO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT A POLITICIAN SHOULD DO.

PAVE THE STREETS AND FIX THE SIDEWALKS.

>> AND THE GRANT, THAT WAS BAD.

I MEAN, THAT WAS JUST A VERY -- THAT WAS A BAD LOOK.

ALSO, I THINK THAT SHE AND KIM GARDNER WERE KIND OF ASCENDING AT THE EXACT SAME TIME IN TERMS OF COMING INTO OFFICE WANTING TO RIGHT PAST WRONGS.

THAT'S A REALLY TALL ORDER WHEN YOU HAVE -- WHEN YOU HAVE A CITY ON THE BRINK.

>> I DISAGREE, ONLY IN THIS.

DO NOT PUT TISHAURA JONES WITH COREY BUSH AND KIM, WHATEVER HER NAME WAS.

>> GARDNER.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> BUT THEY WERE THREE TOGETHER.

BUT TRUST ME, DON'T DO THAT.

>> DIDN'T THE MAYOR HERSELF COIN THE PHRASE BLACK GIRL MANAGEMENT?

>> SHE DID.

>> BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

LET'S GO TO THE COMPTROLLER'S RACE WHERE DARLENE GREEN, WHO HAD A PRETTY GOOD RECORD WITH A FEW BUMPS OVER 30 YEARS, LOST HER ELECTION TO DONNA BARINGER AND TONI COUSINS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD LOST TO THREE CANDIDATES AND CAME IN FOURTH PLACE SO SHE'S NO LONGER GOING TO 801 CHOPHOUSE OR WHATEVER SHE WAS DOING IN THE PAST.

WERE THEY COLLATERAL DAMAGE?

I THINK DARLENE WAS, AND I WAS GOING TO SAY DON'T PUT TONY COUSINS WITH DARLENE.

I THINK TAR LANE LOST BECAUSE OF THE TURNOUT.

DONNA BARINGER BASICALLY, THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT THEY WERE VOTING FOR.

>> BUT THERE WAS NO ENORMOUS TURNOUT, REMEMBER?

>> BUT, NO, I'M SAYING IN SOUTH.

>> THERE WERE A LOT OF MAILERS THAT LINKED DARLENE GREEN TO TISHAURA JONES.

>> IT WASN'T GOOD TURNOUT, IT WAS 30%.

>> BUT INSIDE THE CITY.

>> OKAY, CHARLIE, YOU ASKED ME, WE WERE TALKING TO DARLENE GREEN AND WHEN I SHE LOST.

DARLENE GREEN LOST BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE CAME OUT AND VOTED FOR CARA SPENCER.

THAT'S ALL.

I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS 90%.

>> WHERE ARE THE OTHERS?

THERE ARE THE 78% OF REGISTERED VOTERS.

>> WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THAT.

>> A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE STAYED HOME AND DARLENE GREEN GOT HIT BY THAT.

>> WAIT A MINUTE, DARLENE GREEN LOST BY 4%.

THE MAYOR LOST BY 28%.

SO OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE IN HOW PEOPLE VIEWED THE TWO CANDIDATES AND THAT 4% WAS PROBABLY PEOPLE WHEN DIDN'T KNOW WHO DONNA BARINGER WAS AND PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW WHO DARLENE GREEN WAS, THEY WERE JUST VOTING THIS TICKET OF DONNA BARINGER AND CARA SPENCER.

>> UP UNTIL THE LAST FEW YEARS DARLENE GREEN SEEMED TO BE THE EXEMPLARY -- >> I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.

>> NO SCANDALS TO SPEAK OF.

HANDLING ALL THE MONEY PERFECTLY.

>> IT'S GROWN UP.

>> IT'S BEEN A QUICK DOWNFALL.

>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE, BILL, OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE ANNOUNCING THIS WEEK IT WILL TARGET ANN WAGNER, THE CONGRESSWOMAN WHO REPRESENTS THE SECOND DISTRICT IN MISSOURI, IN 2026?

CAN DEMOCRATS UNSEAT ANN WAGNER?

>> NO, NO, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A CHANCE.

AND I THINK IF THEY WERE EVER GOING TO PUT MONEY INTO THE SECOND DISTRICT, IT WAS THIS LAST TIME WITH HARTMANN RUNNING BECAUSE ABORTION WAS ON THE BALLOT.

AND THAT, ONE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT, WOULD HAVE HELPED RAY AND HURT ANN WAGNER.

BUT ANN WAGNER IS A STRONG CANDIDATE, I THINK, AND THE DISTRICT IS SO REPUBLICAN, GOING INTO SAINT CHARLES AND IS IT UNION COUNTY?

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR A DEMOCRAT TO GET ANY VOTES OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW, SO I READ ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE TARGETING ANN WAGNER, I THINK YOU GUYS MISSED YOUR CHANCE.

>> OH, I DISAGREE.

>> I TOTALLY DISAGREE.

>> I THINK THE TIME IS NOW BECAUSE YOU HAVE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON IS SO UNPOPULAR WITH SO MANY PEOPLE.

AND ANN IS BEING FORCED TO GO ALONG WITH SOME VOTES AGAINST MEDICAID.

I DON'T THINK ABORTION WAS A HUGE BOOST HERE.

IT DIDN'T PASS BUT IT HAD NO COATTAILS AND IF THING IT PROBABLY TURNED OFF SOME SWING VOTERS.

I THINK TWO YEARS FROM NOW THEY CAN RUN ANN WAGNER AND TRUMP.

>> SHE'S TURNED FROM BEING THE OLD-FASHIONED BUSH-CHENEY REPUBLICAN INTO A MAGA WOMAN.

>> EXACTLY.

>> I WATCH THE STUFF GOING ON IN WASHINGTON AND THE MAGA PEOPLE ARE STILL BEHIND TRUMP.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S WISHFUL THINKING TO -- >> I AGREE WITH BILL.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, ONE, TRUMP AND THE PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT AND VOTED VOTED FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.

THAT OVERWHELMED ANYBODY ON THE BALLOT LAST NOVEMBER.

RAY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE BECAUSE HE WAS RUNNING INTO THAT TITLE WAVE.

TIMES HAVE CHANGED QUICKLY.

I WAS IN KANSAS CITY LAST SATURDAY, AND MY DAUGHTER CALLED ME AND SAID, DAD, THERE'S 500, 6000 PEOPLE STANDING OUT IN THE POURING RAIN OUT HERE BY MANCHESTER, AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE STANDING IN THE POURING RAIN, YOU KNOW, WITH HANDS OFF.

AND ELON MUSK.

SO THERE IS SOME MOMENTUM, AND THE RIGHT CANDIDATE COULD GO TO FRANKLIN COUNTY AND SAY LIKE, LOOK, I'M NOT FOR ANY OF THAT FOOLISHNESS THAT SOME OF MY COUNTERPARTS STOOD WITH, I'M NOT WITH THAT, I AM HERE TO REPRESENT YOU AND I THINK THEY PULL ENOUGH VOTES.

THERE'S ENOUGH IF YOU -- >> I THINK ANN WAGNER IS SAFE.

>> SHE'S GOT OVER $8 MILLION.

THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WILL HAVE ZERO.

MAYBE RAY HAS $22,000 LEFT OVER BUT YOU HAVE TO FIND THE CANDIDATE TOO.

DEMOCRATS HAVE TROUBLE FINDING A CANDIDATE FOR COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

>> I MEAN, THAT'S KEY, THE RIGHT PERSON RUNNING.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU PICK THE WRONG CANDIDATE.

I'LL GIVE YOU THAT.

BUT IT COULD.

IT COULD HAPPEN.

>> I THINK IF THE DOW GOES DOWN ANOTHER 10,000 POINTS OR WHATEVER IT'S DOING AND PEOPLE ARE LOSING JOBS AND THERE'S A RECESSION -- >> ALL THE MOMENTUM FOR HANDS OFF AND THAT, I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT, OKAY, WASN'T BLACK HISTORY, DEI, LGBTQ, IT'S MONEY.

ALL OF A SUDDEN LIKE, HEY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE.

>> I'M UNDERESTIMATING HOW MUCH PEOPLE LOVE DONALD TRUMP.

>> DONALD TRUMP ISN'T RUNNING, ANN WAGNER IS RUNNING.

>> I KNOW, BUT I THINK DONALD TRUMP'S POLICIES, THEY CAN HURT PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE SEEM TO SAY I STILL LOVE THE PRESIDENT.

>> I GET THAT NOW BUT IF THIS GOES INTO RECESSION AND THINGS GO WHERE CHARLIE IS TALKING ABOUT THEY COULD GO, I THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE WILL SPLIT-OFF AND IT COULD BE ENOUGH TO CHANGE A DISTRICT LIKE THAT TEN, TWELVE POINTS.

>> IT'S POSSIBLE.

>> WE MIGHT HAVE TO SAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

>> BUT YOU ARE -- I THINK ANN WAGNER'S DANGER IS FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

IT'S FROM LIKE BILL -- >> YOU ARE TALKING LAKE ANN WAGNER LIKE SHE WAS THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE THIS THE WORLD.

SHE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO RUN LAST TIME, SHE WON.

THIS TIME SHE WOULD HAVE TO GET OUT AND RUN AND THAT'S HER DOWNFALL.

SHE LOVES HER OFFICE BUT SHE AIN'T GOING TO RUN FOR IT.

>> YOU BELIEVE -- DID YOU BELIEVE THE DNC AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ISSUES AND MAYBE THEY NEED TO STRAIGHTEN UP THOSE ISSUES.

>> I WOULDN'T BE SHOCKED IN ANN WAGNER DIDN'T SEEK RE-ELECTION TWO YEARS FROM NOW.

I WOULDN'T BE SHOCKED.

>> IT'S TOO BAD THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CAMPAIGN DIDN'T HELP RAY HARTMANN.

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, THE ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE TOOK AN INCREASING LOOK AT ANKLE MONITORS POUR THOSE ACCUSED OF CRIMES AND WAITING FOR THEIR DAYS IN COURT.

AT LEAST HERE IN ST. LOUIS CITY THEY ARE USED QUITE OFTEN BUT THE REPORTER SEEMED TO INDICATE THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE ANKLE MONITORS.

>> YEAH, WHERE THE REPORT WAS GOOD, AND IT'S THROUGH THE NEW YORK TIMES LOCAL INVESTIGATION FELLOWSHIP AND THEY ALLOWED US TO SIMULTANEOUSRY PUBLISH THE STORY SO GREAT FOR US.

THEY POINTED OUT WHILE ANKLE BRACELETS ARE A GREAT ALTERNATIVE THAN BEING LOCKED IN THE CITY JAIL, WHICH IS A DANGEROUS PLACE, THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY A GREAT ALTERNATIVE FOR WHO PREVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD TO SHOW UP ON THIS DAY AND COME BACK TO COURT AND NOT A RISK.

THEY ARE PUTTING PEOPLE LIKE THIS INTO WEARING ANKLE BRACELETS LIKE IT ISN'T A BIG DEAL BUT IT IS A BIG DEAL.

YOU CAN'T GO OUT AND RUN ERRAND, IT'S A BIG IMPOSITION.

THERE'S 100% PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE USING THEM BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT WITH A SCALPEL RATHER THAN A HAMMER.

>> I TALKED TO ONE JUDGE THAT SAID IF YOU NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTACT THE COMPANY THAT MONITORS THE MONITORS AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU PERMISSION, THEY WILL WATCH YOU GO TO THE HOSPITAL, WHATEVER.

I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THE WOMAN WHO WAS THE POSTER CHILD FOR THE ANKLE MONITOR ABUSE HAD VIOLATED THE ANKLE MONITOR MORE THAN TWO DOZEN TIMES.

I MEAN SHE HAD WAVED A GUN IN THE AIR AND FIRED SHOTS AROUND CHILDREN -- >> THAT'S WHAT INITIALLY GOT HER IN TROUBLE.

>> RIGHT.

BUT I THOUGHT SHE WAS LUCKY NOT TO BE IN JAIL.

>> SHE DIDN'T GET -- SHE ONLY GOT A 46 GLASS FINE AND DON'T DO IT AGAIN?

BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER GUY THIS LED POLICE ON A 30 MINUTE CHASE AND HE'S ON AN ANKLE MONITOR.

I THINK HE SHOULD BE THIS JAIL.

>> HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS OR ST. LOUIS REGION, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ANKLE BRACELETS.

>> 575?

IS THAT WHAT WE LEARNED.

>> THERE'S HUNDRED OF PEOPLE.

>> 575 PEOPLE.

>> I THINK IT'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN JAIL THAT MAYBE WE'VE ERRED AND GOTTEN TOO PEOPLE PEOPLE ON IT BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING FOR PEOPLE ACOWSED OF A CRIME.

>> AS DIFFICULT AS IT IS TO CHARGE YOUR ANKLE MONITOR, THERE WAS A LOCAL ATTORNEY THAT WENT IN FRONT OF ST. LOUIS COUNTY COUNCIL YESTERDAY AND HE SAID THE INMATES THERE ARE FACING CLOGGED TOILETS SO THEY ARE USING THE WASTE PAPER BASKETS FOR TOILETS, FOE HYGIENE PRODUCTS, NO TOILET PAPER, THEY ARE OVERCROWDED AND PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING NEXT TO THE TOILET, I WOULD RATHER BE AT HOME CHARGING MY ANKLE BRACELET.

>> I AGREE.

>> BUT 575 PEOPLE?

OKAY.

>> I BELIEVE THAT'S THE REPORT.

>> SO WE'RE GOING TO KNOCK OURSELVES OUT FOR 575 PEOPLE?

>> I THINK WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT HOW WE TREAT PEOPLE AWAITING THEIR DAY IN COURT.

IT COULD BE ANY OF US.

>> BUT IT'S NOT US.

AND WE SAY THIS ALL THE TIME, I THINK PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF MISSOURI ARE A LITTLE TOO PREOCCUPIED WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN JAIL AS OPPOSED TO THOSE WHO NEVER WENT TO JAIL AND ARE TRYING TO GET AHEAD IN LIFE.

>> THEY HAVE NOT BEEN FOUND GUILTY.

AND I WANT TO GIVE THE COURTS A LITTLE CREDIT HERE THAT WHEN THIS INITIALLY CAME OUT, AT THE TIME THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC BUB ABOUT THE TIME WE WERE ASKING POOR PEOPLE TO PAY FOR THE COSTS OF THE ANKLE MONITORS AND THE COURTS STEPPED UP AND THIS IS NOW THE CIRCUIT COURT COVERS IN THE CITY.

IN THE COUNTY THEY ARE STILL CHARGING PEOPLE.

BUT I HAVE TO GIVE THEM CREDIT, THERE WAS OUTCRY ABOUT IT AND THEY DEALT WITH IT IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY.

>> VERY WELL.

SAD NEWS THIS WEEK, WE LOST ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PROFESSION WHEN NICHOLAS PISTOR TORE DIED AT THE AGE OF 43.

HE NOT UNDER THE SKIN OF A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN WHEN HE WAS COVERING THINGS HERE IN ST. LOUIS.

HIS REPORTING WAS SO GOOD.

HE DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND THAT'S DIFFICULT FOR A REPORTER TO DO.

THEN HE LEFT THE POST-DISPATCH PATCH A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WROTE A COUPLE BOOKS ABOUT LINCOLN AND OTHER SUBJECTS.

BUT YOU WORKED WITH HIM, AND HE DIED THIS WEEK AT THE AGE OF 43.

>> YEAH, NICK WAS NOT ONLY A TERRIFIC REPORTER, ABOUT YOU NICK WAS SORT OF LIKE OUR TOWN'S LITTLE TOM WOLF.

YOU HE WAS JUST A JOY TO BE AROUND.

NICK WAS GOOD COMPANY.

TO LOSE NICK AT 43 IS A VERY SAD THING.

>> YEAH, HE WAS A MISCHIEF MAKER AND I GOT TO KNOW HIM GIST ABOUT A MONTH AGO WHEN HE WAS LEADING A CRUSADE TO GET THE CURRENT POST-DISPATCH PATCH OFFICE AT CITY HALL OPENED UP TO ANY REPORTER WHO WANTED TO USE IT.

IT WAS HIS OLD OFFICE.

IT DROVE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE CRAZY.

BUT WE SHOULD GET A PLAQUE OUTSIDE OF THAT OFFICE AND NAME IT THE NICHOLAS PISTOR TORE MEMORIAL OFFICE.

>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THERE WAS A PICTURE OF NICK DOWNTOWN BECAUSE HE WAS A DOWNTOWN GUY.

HE LIVED DOWNTOWN.

AND A PICTURE OF NICK.

IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO HAVE.

>> YEAH.

LET'S GET IT DONE.

ALVIN I WANT TO ASK YOU SINCE YOUR MOM WAS AN EDUCATOR FOR MANY YEARS, WHAT DOES SHE THINK ABOUT CRYSTAL CITY, 86% OF THOSE WHO WENT TO THE POLLS THIS TUESDAY IN CRYSTAL CITY VOTED TO KEEP THE FOUR-DAY SCHOOL WEEK.

FOUR DAYS, NOT FIVE.

SOME COUNTRIES HAVE SIX LIKE JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

CRYSTAL CITY IS NOT NECESSARILY A MIKE COKOSS MANY OF THE -- A MICROCOSM OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND DID YOU ACTUALLY READ THE BALLOT PROPOSAL?

IT SEEMS A LITTLE HIGH.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT OTHER THAN TO SAY I THINK IF NATIONALLY WE COULD VOTE, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FOUR-DAY WORK WEEK IN AMERICA, AND BY TO GO SO MAYBE NOT 20%, BUT EVERYBODY HAS TO TAKE A 10% LIKE PAY CUT.

AND I THINK 86% OF THE PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY VOTE YES.

>> BUT THIS IS EDUCATION.

>> I KNOW.

I'M JUST SAYING.

>> ABOUT A THIRD OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND TEACHERS BUT THEY CAN FIND TEACHERS WILLING TO, WOULD FOUR DAYS.

WE KNOW WITH THE OLD HOCKEY THEORY FROM MALCON GLAD WELL, IF YOU DO 10,000 HOURS OF HOCKEY YOU WILL BE A GOOD HOCKEY MAYOR AND THE LESS YOU DO OF ACADEMICS -- >> I AGREE WITH YOU 1,000%.

I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY 86% OF THE PEOPLE IN CRYSTAL CITY VOTED FOR IT.

>> AS A PARENT TO A YOUNG CHILD THIS IS TERRIFYING.

THEY CANNOT BRING THIS TO ST. LOUIS.

OUR ECONOMY WILL BREAKDOWN IN MISSOURI.

>> LIKE ALVIN SAID, PEOPLE THINK IT WILL START WITH THE SCHOOLS AND THEN PRETTY SOON IT WILL -- >> YEAH.

I REALLY DO THINK THAT.

I DO.

>> I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN MICDS AND -- WHEN T HEY START GOING TO FOUR DAYS, THEN MAYBE I'LL CONSIDER IT.

BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IT WILL BE LESS WORK FOR THE KIDS AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.

>> IT'S THE WHOLE TREND IN AMERICA YOU SEE THE KIDS THAT HAVE A LOT OF PRIVILEGE THEY WILL DO MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND THEY WILL BE IN SCHOOL FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND PEOPLE WHO ARE RELIANT ON THE LESS WELL-FUNDED SYSTEM FALL OFF.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

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