NOW IT'S KIND OF WIDENED OUT A BIT.

WE'RE STILL ONLY A FEW PERCENTAGE POINTS APART BUT THERE'S STILL A LEAD THERE.

>> YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY.

YOU'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FOURTH AND SHERROD BROWN HAS SAID THIS IS GOING TO BE HIS TOUGHEST RACE.

RIGHT NOW HE LOOKS UP IN A LOT OF THE POLLS.

MORENO IS OUT AND ABOUT IN THE STATE CAMPAIGNING.

HE WAS WITH REPRESENTATIVE JIM JORDAN, THE FIRE BRAND OHIO REPRESENTATIVE EVERYBODY KNOWS EARLIER THIS WEEK, SO I THINK IT'S TOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW -- IT'S TOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO DO THE MATH AND FIGURE OUT HOW SHERROD BROWN IS GOING TO PULL THIS OFF IN A STATE THAT IS GOING TO VOTE BY A NUMBER OF POINTS FOR TRUMP.

WE ARE ONLY GOING TO KNOW WHEN WE KNOW.

>> MARK, DONALD TRUMP STILL HAS THE LEAD, SIZEABLE LEAD.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, IT SHRUNK A BIT.

IT'S DOWN BY 7.

HE WON BY 8.

STILL WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR.

THE ACTIVE VOTE HAD TRUMP UP BY 12 IN AUGUST.

NOW THEY HAVE HIM UP BY 7.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY CUT IN HALF.

DO WE READ ANYTHING INTO THAT?

IS IT A NATURAL TIGHTENING?

>> THIS IS A TIGHT RACE.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A PRESIDENTIAL RACE QUITE AS TIGHT.

I WROTE ABOUT THE TENDENCY OF TRUMP VOTERS NOT WANT TO TALK TO POLLSTERS.

IT'S HARD TO CAPTURE THE REAL FEELINGS.

HAVING SAID THAT, WE ALL AGREE TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN.

THE REQUEST HE IS WHETHER IT'S BY WHAT HE WON BEFORE, 8?

I PREDICT IT WILL BE 10.

I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF TWISTS AND TURNS.

IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE RESULTS OF WHO GETS THE ELECTORAL VOTES.

IF TRUMP WINS BY 6, THEN SHERROD BROWN IS IN GREAT SHAPE?

>> MARK IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WHEN HE WROTE THAT OP ED PIECE HE WAS REFLECTING ON THE 2016 ELECTION.

I THINK THINGS HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE TRUMP HAS BECOME A CULTURAL ICON, WHICH MAY BE WHAT IS DRIVING THESE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ISSUE 1 AND TRUMP HERE IN OHIO.

THE WILD CARD IS THE NEW REGISTRANTS.

8 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE AGED INTO THE VOTING ROLLS.

ACCORDING TO VOTE.ORG, ABOUT A MILLION PEOPLE THEY HAVE HOPED REGISTER, 79% OF THOSE ARE UNDER 35.

THAT MIGHT BE HERE IN OHIO AS WELL.

THAT WE DON'T KNOW.

WE CAN'T IGNORE THE FACT TRUMP HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT 7, 8 POINTS.

>> WHAT'S CONFUSING, MARK, THE ISSUE 1 MARGIN.

LET'S ASSUME THE UNSURE VOTERS ALL VOTE NO AND THE VOTE NO FOLKS VOTE NO.

THE ISSUE 1 IS STILL UP BY 20.

>> SEEMS TO BE A DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN ISSUE.

I'M SUPPORTING NO SIDE.

FOR YEARS I TAUGHT POLLING.

IT'S EASY TO SIMULATE A BALLOT TEST WHEN YOU SAY WOULD YOU VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN OR THE DEMOCRAT?

THAT'S A PRECISE BALLOT TEST.

TO SIMULATE THAT, YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM ALL OF THE WORDS THEY'RE GOING TO SEE ON THE BALLOT.

>> COULD IT BE EVERYBODY IS MAD AT EVERYONE?

>> THAT'S WHERE DONALD TRUMP GETS A LOT OF HIS SUPPORT FROM.

ISSUE 1 REFLECTS THAT ANGER, THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN AND THIS IS A WAY TO FIX IT.

>> IT DEPENDS.

IT TELLS US IT WILL FORCE JERRY MANNEDERING AND THAT'S THE OFFICIAL BALLOT LANGUAGE.

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT THE VOTERS ARE HEARING ON THE TV ADS.

>> $26 MILLION FROM OUT OF STATE FOREIGN INTERESTS CAN MAKE A LOT OF POLLING -- I DON'T THINK IT'S 20 POINTS.

IT'S HARD TO POLL.

>> LET'S GET TO ANOTHER TOPIC.

ABORTION.

IT'S GAINING PROMINENCE IN THE FINAL WEEKS OF THIS CAMPAIGN.

THE DODD DECISION HAS PUT REPUBLICANS ON DEFENSE.

>> DONALD TRUMP PUT THIS ALL INTO MOTION.

HE BRAGGED ABOUT HOW GREAT IT WAS THAT HE PUT THE JUDGES IN AND OVERTURNED ROE VERSUS WADE.

52 YEARS OF PERSONAL AUTONOMY.

IN THE STATE OF OHIO WE HAD A REFERENDUM AND THE PEOPLE OF OHIO VOTED, BY THE WAY, AGAINST MY POSITION.

I THINK WHAT I LEARNED FROM THAT MORE, WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF EARNING BACK PEOPLE'S TRUST.

SO MANY YOUNG WOMEN SEE AN UNPLANNED PREGNANCY AS SOMETHING THAT WILL DESTROY THEIR RELATIONSHIP AND WE HAVE TO EARN PEOPLE'S TRUST BACK AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE INTERESTED IN PURSUING PRO FAMILY POLICIES.

>> THIS ILLUSTRATES THE PROBLEM, THE STRUGGLE THE REPUBLICANS HAVE HAD WITH HOW MUCH THEY WERE OPPOSED TO IT BEFORE DOBBS.

NOW THAT IT'S HIT, THE POPULARITY HAS GONE THE OTHER WAY.

NOW THERE'S AN EM IF A PET THICK TACTIC BY J.D.

VANCE.

>> IT REFLECTED WHAT HE SAID BACK IN 2023 WHEN ISSUE 1 FIRST PASSED.

HE SAID PEOPLE HAVE LOST THE TRUST OF THE GENERAL POPULUS ON THE ISSUE.

THEY'RE NOT FOCUSING ON -- YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST FOCUSES ON ABORTION, NOT FOCUSING ON OTHER WAYS TO HELP WOMEN, WHICH HE IS SAYING THERE THAT HE THINKS SOME OF THE MESSAGING NEEDS TO GO AROUND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S PUT REPUBLICANS ON THE DEFENSE.

IT'S A -- YOU'VE SEEN IT NOT ONLY THIS YEAR DO WE HAVE AN ELECTION WHERE POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, FOLKS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR TRUMP AND THEN VOTE FOR ISSUE 1, WHICH IS SEEN AS VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS.

WE SAW THAT LAST YEAR.

I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MESSAGE ON THIS.

THE THUS FAR I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY FOUND SOMETHING THAT IS RESONATING AS MUCH.

>> MARK, HOW SHOULD REPUBLICANS HANDLE THIS?

IN THEIR BASE OF FOLKS THAT ARE VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO ABORTION RIGHTS, THINK DON'T WANT ANY LEGAL ABORTION.

SOME DON'T WANT EXCEPTIONS.

THE POLLING IS SHOWING 6% WANT AT LEAST SOME STANDARD NEAR THE ROE STANDARD.

HOW SHOULD REPUBLICANS HANDLE THIS?

>> I THINK J.D.

VANCE SPOKE ABOUT HOW YOUNG WOMEN FEEL.

TO BE CLEAR, ANYONE WHO PUTS ABORTION ATZ THE TOP IS A BLUE VOTER.

>> DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO.

>> GIVEN THE PROBLEMS AROUND THE WORLD, IF THEY ARE VOTING WITH ABORTION AS THE FIRST CHOICE, THEY ALREADY KNOW WHO THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR.

NOT ALL BUT SOME PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT HAVE TAKEN A SCALDING APPROACH.

>> SOME DEMOCRATS DON'T WANT ANY RESTRICTIONS BUT WALZ TOOK WHAT OHIOANS APPROVED LAST YEAR.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

THE WHOLE THING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO SOME DEMOCRATS BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE DOCTOR, THE PATIENT, THE EXPECTANT MOM IN THIS CASE, AND SOME PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE ARE TRYING TO EXTRAPOLATE THAT AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT IN THE MOST RIDICULOUS SORT OF WAY, YOU COULD HAVE ABORTIONS UP TO NINE MONTHS INCLUDING AFTER, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, BIRTH.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

IT GETS BASTARDIZED.

THE MESSAGE GETS AFFECTED.

NEITHER CAMPAIGN IS 100% PRO LIFE.

IT'S A MATTER OF AFTER WHEN.

>> SHERROD BROWN, FIRST PART OF HIS CAMPAIGN, WAS TALKING ABOUT MORENO'S BUSINESS RECORD, FIGHTING ABOUT FENTANYL.

NOW THE ADDS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THAT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT'S A NICHE HE IS PUSHING.

>> IT'S CLEAR.

FLORIDA HAS ONE ON THE BALLOT.

THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT TRANS CENTS PARTY.

WEST VIRGINIA CAME WITHIN 2, 3, 4 POINTS AND SHERROD BROWN IS TRYING TO TAP-IN AND CAPITALIZE ON THAT.

HE NEEDS A LOT OF TRUMP VOTERS TO PULL THE LEVERS.

>> PLAYING TO THE LEFT, WHICH IS WHAT HE'S DONE WITH THE AD, MEANS HE NEEDS SPACE.

THIS SHOWS HE THINKS THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IS TO MOTIVATE THE BASE TO WIN.

>> A LOT OF WOMEN, IT MOTIVATES >> NOT AS MUCH.

NOT AT THE TOP OF THEIR MATRIX.

YOU KNOW WHICH PARTY YOU'RE VOTING FOR.

THE FACT THAT SHERROD BROWN IS MOVING TO THE LEFT THIS LATE IN THE RACE, THIS IS A TURNOUT ELECTION.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S ACTUALLY THROWING THE PEOPLE INTO THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

I THINK IT'S THROWING PEOPLE THERE.

YOU'RE NOT BOOSTING THOSE.

THEY'LL COME BACK AND VOTE FOR TRUMP.

>> THE LAST TOPIC, THE RHETORIC ABOUT SPRINGFIELD HAITIANS.

THIS WEEK FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND DEPORT THOSE LIVING AND WORKING IN SPRINGFIELD.

GOVERNOR DeWINE, THE COMMENTS WERE THE HARSHEST YET.

HE'S INCREASINGLY INFURIATED.

THAT'S FIGHTING WORDS?

>> MUCH TO HIS CREDIT.

NOT ONLY IDENTIFYING THEM AS POTENTIAL SAVAGES, BUT OUR GOVERNOR THEN TRIED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BY SENDING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO THE SCHOOLS AND TO THE HOSPITALS IN THE CITY OF SPRINGFIELD.

SO CREDIT GOES ELSEWHERE.

>> I WENT TO A HAITIAN CREOLE MAUTS.

DOES IT BLUNT AT ALL?

>> YOU REALLY HAVE TO FALL DOWN ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

MOST WOULD HAVE KNOWN TRAGICALLY CHANGED.

HAD THIS BEEN PEOPLE FROM VENEZUELANS, SOMALIA, I'M NOT SAYING HE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THE SAME POLICY THINGS.

LIKE DeWINE, I WAS DONATING TO THE SCHOOL AMONGST THE POOREST OF THE POOR.

>> IN SPRING FIELD?

>> MIAMI VALLEY.

YES.

>> HOW DO YOU READ THIS?

THIS DEBATE IT FOCUSED ON.

OFF THE CUP TYPE OF THING.

FIGURED HE WAS SPITBALLING.

>> IF YOU ARE HASH HAN, JUST TODAY THERE WERE 17 GANG SHOOTINGS IN FRONT OF PORT-AU-PRINCE.

ALL OF A SUFFERED A FORMER PRESIDENT, AND SO I THINK POLITICALLY IT WILL BLOW OVER.

I DON'T THINK THE NUMBERS ARE THERE.

>> IT'S DYING DOWN.

IT'S NOT OVER.

OUR FINAL OFF THE RECORD PARTING SHOTS.

MARK WEAVER, YOU'RE UP FRONT.

>> FIND THE VOTE YES WITH VOTE NUMBER 1.

AND IT WAS STRUCK DOWN UNANIMOUSLY WHO HAS IT.

>> I THINK THE MICHIGAN PLANT IS NOT WORKING.

YOU AND I AGREE ON ONE THING, AND IT IS OUR VIEWERS SHOULD SUPPORT WOSU.

THE FALL DRIVE.

AS AN ATTORNEY, I RECOMMEND THAT AS YOU VEE YOU VIEW.

>> SERIOUSLY.

HE CAN WRITE GOOD.

>> I HAVE NEITHER WILL NOR TRUST, JOE, IF YOU HAVE A MINUTE AFTER WE WRAP HERE.

I THINK JOE'S GOOD.

>> GOOD.

CINCINNATI BENGALS QUARTERBACK.

SARAH?

>> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTING, EARLY VOTING STARTING VERY, VERY SOON.

>> THE LINES MAY BE SHORTER BECAUSE THEY'VE MADE THEM MORE EFFICIENT.

>> FIRST AND SECOND ROW SERIES.

CLEVELAND GUARDIANS.

LE THEY HAVE A WARM SPOT.

NOW HE'S GOING TO MANAGE THE REDS.

>> LET'S HOPE HE DOES WITH THE REDS AS HE DOES THE GUARDIANS.

>> THAT IS ""COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD"" THIS WEEK.

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