the music I make is never going to be more beautiful or more complex than these sounds.

All around us.

it's more of that, being in these places, being in natural spaces puts my thinking in my mind in a different, mode.

I'm here in Rocky Mountain National Park.

working here as an artist residence.

neighbors around the cabin probably think to that I'm crazy.

They see this person with headphones on, wandering with like cables over rocks and stuff can't.

You just like, you know, paint the scenery, like all the normal artists do, I usually don't go into a trail with like, I'm going for this specific sound.

It's more just walking around to see what sounds do I hear listening is hard in a way, There's so many sounds around us, even out here.

But at home in cities, it's really difficult and can be really overwhelming to take time and to hear all the sounds people have really strong memories of of good sound.

Right.

but it's just something that I don't know, I feel like a lot of people don't always think about as much as we might think about, like, you know, visual beauty or something, you it wasn't really until I got to college that I really thought about composition as something that that I could do.

And so through college, I began writing more pieces, as I worked more, you know, I became aware of people doing work with recorded sound.

And I always loved being outdoors.

I grew up as a Boy Scout and hiking a lot, and so it just kind of made a lot of natural sense for me to bring a recorder along with me and to record these sounds and use them in music.

So this isn't particularly deep, but I think it's deep enough to get some cool hydrophone recordings.

you can play like a whole piece just moving around and just hearing the sounds of the different parts of the river and stuff.

So that should be the right way.

It may make a little noise and stuff as I'm moving it around.

It's probably pretty loud right now, but I put in the water.

fun with kids to do this because then it gets them thinking about how does official sitting there, like I have one that goes in the ground so you can hear, like the earth sound and stuff, but.

taking the time to listen and taking the time to hear what what's around us, it really changes how we approach everything.

what are the sounds that we're making, how are we a part of this soundscape?

And beyond listening, I think it really starts to be a way that you build connection with people, places, things, plants and animals beyond sound.